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On 2012/01/27 09:37:26 AM,  JD said:

Have found this site very interesting, that have posted the link to FB as well. I also hate this money making system where safety is no longer a concern, but the bottom line is.
Am I on the understanding that all speeding fines issued where the trapping has been taken from behind to be illegal, as the driver cannot be identified?
Comment on this would be appreciated.

Our Comments: Hi JD,  There are a number of issues which make certain greedtraps illegal and taking a picture from behind is not one of them. The problem created is that you are innocent till proven guilty and they would have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that you were in fact the driver. As they have not stopped you and obtained your correct particulars they would have a problem in proving that you were the driver. My own Son was caught like this a while ago and I told him to appear at the trial, plead not guilty and just inform the Court that he has no idea who was driving on that day. They cannot force you to answer to something that you do not know. The Magistrate asked the issuing officer if he could identify the driver and when he replied in the negative he struck it off the Court roll. So my advice to you would be to do the same or even write to the applicable Prosecutor informing him that various people drive that car and you have no idea who was driving on the given date and time. You must also remember that we have both the CPA and AARTO running and each one requires a different action. Under AARTO, you cannot speak with anyone, you have to submit the prescribed representation form whereas under the CPA you can talk to virtually anyone and request what action you desire.
Mike
On 2012/01/26 11:39:59 AM,  Johan said:

Article on www.beeld.com righ now

http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Gn-lisensie-as-jy-nie-Aarto-boetes-betaal-20120126


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On 2011/12/19 03:11:51 PM,  Simon said:

Good Day
I have just discovered this website and find it very informative and helpful. Thank you. I am particularly interested in the section regarding the Construction Zones, as I have two outstanding fines for the so called N1 South which as you also show is actually the N12E. I have not paid them out of principal, however realise that I will have to cough up if stopped at a roadblock. I would like to know if you have any campaigns going against these types of fines, and if so, if there is anything that a concerned and upset citizen (me) can do to help in these campaigns?
Thanks and Regards,
Simon

Our Comments: Dear Simon.

Please go and look at www.jp-sa.org/media.asp for the release we posted on this issue.
On 2011/12/05 08:49:18 PM,  André said:

This has now become daylight robbery.


I don't mind paying my fines in time if I get one. (the last one was in 2009 for R100) but I don't like money taken from me for nothing. 
Read the following from my e-mails and responses from AARTO. So what do I do now? Just pay?

Our Comments: Hi Andre,
We really would like to assist you but your comment is incomplete.

Mike
On 2011/11/29 02:48:30 PM,  Chere Jeanette said:

I go check my outstanding fines quite often on payfine.co.za to ensure I do not have any fines against my name. I went on about 2 months ago, and found one against my name but were unable to pay it through the site (gave me an error on my card). I knew about this one, it was for R150.

I was overseas for a couple of weeks and got back a week ago. My license disk has been expired since Sept, but I left it for after I got back from the trip. I went to the post office on Monday to have my license disk renewed and they refused to renew my license because there are infringements against my name for R2000. This is impossible. I went on to payfine.co.za again, and found another small fine of R250. This one I remember, and I managed to pay them this time online. I do not know where they get R2000 from. Where can i get the proof/photos and print out of these fines? I haven't signed for anything, and I haven't received anything in the post.

Our Comments: Dear Chere.

If you are going to the licensing department to renew your licence disc then they must provide you with an R114 printout which will have all of the relevant information on it.

Note however that a licence disc may not be withheld unless there is an AARTO Enforcement Order existing in your name or if there is a Warrant of Arrest that has been issued under the Criminal Procedure Act.
On 2011/11/01 04:23:23 PM,  Imran said:

Hi

I received a few fines (02-4024) will

this be reversed ?

Our Comments: Dear Imran.

You, like most people who have come to be made aware of the unlawfulness of 02-4024 fines served via regular surface mail, are one of the reasons it is still occuring and will only come to an end if and when the Public Protector makes her findings. The shocking part of all this is that when JPSA made a call to action for motorists to come on board with taking the JMPD to court in July last year, we thought that plenty people would come on board and help us fund a court action.

Little did we know that South Africans would see what we published and decide to ride the band wagon and wait for us to get a result. We should have realised that this is what would happen, given the fact that South Africans are generally selfish, complacent whingerswho like riding on other people's efforts.

Out of a possible 7,467,493 physical infringement notices so far and counting, people have registered just over 1,000 of them with us, thereby completely paralysing any hope that we may have had of taking the matter to the High Court for a quick fix. This is due to the fact that we would be required to put  down a whopping R1.5million for security for costs in the High Court.

So to you and others like you we say "thanks for nothing" and yes, be patient and you too will be able to benefit from the sacrifices and efforts that we have made on behalf of the motoring public. In the meantime, take a decent introspective look at yourself and your actions and ask yourself if you would be inclined to help the likes of you?

-JPSA-
On 2011/11/01 12:20:55 PM,  David said:

I was visiting a club in Pretoria and parked (illegally) on the pavement, it was after all, close to midnight. I have subsequently received 3 AARTO infringement notices. Code 5042 - Parking in a dangerous place, code 5046 - parking facing oncoming traffic and code 3869 - parking where a no stopping sign is displayed. The penalty, R250.00 in each incident. Is this not a case of greed? Surely this is one crime, choose the most appropriate and fine me for this?

Our Comments: Actually, all are offences and you may be charged with several offences at once. Sorry that we could not agree with you 100%. Pavements are for people, not vehicles - 24 hours a day.
On 2011/10/26 12:30:21 PM,  Matthew said:

Hi,

I have received via normal post a summons (CPA5) to appear in court on 24022012 or pay a admission of guilt fine of R500 before 10022012 on a parking infringement. No prior notices were received.

The number plate of the vehicle is the same as mine but the vehicle description is totally different. Also the offence was committed in East London and my vehicle has never been anywhere near there.

How do I get this summons retracted legally?

Thanks

Our Comments: A summons under section 54 of the Criminal Procedure Act must be served in person - not posted. If this is a summons, you may approach or write to the public prosecutor of the rellevant magistrates court and ask them to retract it. Please make sure that you include all relevant supporting documentation and that you send your letter via fax or registered mail - so that you have proof of doing so. I also recommend that you follow up on it as if you fail to appear in court on a summons, a warrant of arrest will be issued against you.
On 2011/10/24 10:35:33 AM,  Marlene said:

 I drive a motorcar first registered in March 2005 and was stopped and asked for my warning triangle which was not there and I received a R500/250 fine, is this a legislation that I missed?

Our Comments: Marlene,
You have not missed out on anything here. Regulation 214 of the National Road Traffic Regulations 2000 (as amended) quite clearly refers to a motor car first registered on or after 1 July 2006. As your vehicle is registered in March 2005, that particular Regulation does not apply to your vehicle. I suggest that you get a certified copy of your registration certificate as proof that it is in fact a 2005 model and then post a letter to the Prosecutor at the relevant Court explaining that this Regulation does not apply. Do not forget to include the notice/summons with it. However, if it is an infringement notice in terms of AARTO, then youn need to complete and submit an AARTO 08 representation form, which you can download at www.aarto.co.za/forms.asp.
On 2011/06/14 11:48:33 AM,  Mike said:

Mitchell,
What makes you think that I am affiliated to JPSA. Like I said, I was just following the thread. I am in Cape Town and JPSA is somewhere up there?
I had the Garmin Nuvi 1410 which gave endless problems and was waste of money. Changed it for a Tomtom, so much better. 
We all know that the current speeding fine situation is not directed at road safety at all, rather revenue generating. But what you also need to understand is that these people operating the traps work for a senior officer who tells them where to go; they do not decide. So you see the problem lies at the top of the pile not the bottom. That problem is further exacerbated by the fact that those in charge are normally close to pensionable age and are only thinking of the excellent package that they have WORKED so hard for.

Drive safe!
Mike

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